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Gay Sex: Bareback?

Hi,

I met an older man(35) yesterday. He dresses well, speaks well & seems to be in great shape; He has asked me if I`d like to top him today, doing it bareback; Should I? He says he clean but(!) he could be lying. If he has AIDS & I top him bareback is there a risk I could receive HIV?

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shvd28
Theres no reason to take the chance, too much risk un protected

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gopbol
Don`t ask me I don`t have siltiest idea

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torogay
WITH GLOVE, IT`S NOT LOVE

CONDOMS AS PROTECTION

Editor of Rubber Chemistry & Technology, Dr. C; Michael Roland of the U; S. Naval Research Laboratory in Washington D; C., spoke about his research on `intrinsic flaws` in latex rubber condoms & surgical gloves (published in Rubber World, June, 1993).

Roland said that what I am about to relate is `common knowledge among good scientists who have no political agenda. `

Electron microscopy reveals the AIDS virus to be about O. 1 microns in size (a micron is millionth of a metre). It is 60 times smaller than a syphilis bacterium, & 450 times smaller than a single human sperm.

The standard U. S. government leakage test (ASTM) will detect water leakage through holes only as small as 10 to 12 microns (most condoms sold in Canada are made in the U. S. A., but(!) I`ll mention Canadian test below); Roland says in good tests based on these standards, 33% of all condoms tested allowed HIV-sized particles through, & that `spermicidal agents such as nonoxonol-9 may actually ease the passage. `

Roland`s paper shows electron microscopy photos of natural latex; You can see natural holes, or intrinsic flaws. `inherent defects in natural rubber range between 5 & 70 microns. `

And it`s not as if governments don`t know. study by Dr. R; F. Carey of the U. S. Centers for Disease Control reports that `leakage of HIV-sized particles through latex condoms was detectable for as many as 29 of 89 condoms tested. ` These were brand new, pre-approved condoms; but(!) Roland
says closer reading of Carey`s data actually yields a 78% HIV-leakage rate, & concludes: `That the CDC would promote condoms based on [this] study. suggests It`s agenda is concerned with something other than public health & welfare; ` the federal government`s standard tests, he adds,
`cannot detect flaws even 70 times larger than the HIV virus. ` Such tests are `blind to leakage volumes less tha 1 microliter - yet this quantity of fluid from an AIDS-infected individual has been found to contain as many as 100,000 AIDS particles. `

As 1 U; S; surgeon memorably put it, `The AIDS virus can go through a condom like a bullet through a tennis net. `

It`s the same story with latex gloves. Gloves from 4 different
manufacturers revealed `pits as large as 15 microns wide & 30 microns deep. ` More relevant to AIDS transmission, `5 micron-wide channels, penetrating the entire thickness were found in all the gloves; ` He said the presence of such defects in latex `is well established; `

For Canada, the story is the same. a standard Health & Welfare Canada test of condoms manufactured between 1987 & 1990, based on stringent tests of pressure, leakage, & volume (as in the U. S;, there is no effort to examine micron-level leakage), reported that an astonishing 40% of the
condoms tested failed at least 1 of the tests. Tests in 1991 showed an `improved` 28% rate.

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The few statistics illustrating the effect of condoms use on AIDS transmission in homosexual acts do not give clear cut results.
R. Detels (1989)lxxxix observed 2; 9% drop in seroconversion when condoms were used in homosexual intercourse, in a cohort of 2915 active homo-sexuals initally AIDS sero-negative.

But, in that statistic, the number of partners for each member of cohort was almost as important a factor as the use or not of condom.

L. Levin et al. (1995)xc found that most (71%) of 140 active-duty young men with documented sero-conversion who were identified in various US army installations did use a condom during their homosexual or hetero-sexual relations;

Results seemed to indicate a paradoxal increased risk of seroconversion proportional to condom use in this series.

CONDOMS & CANCER

May 29, 2004

Potent Carcinogen found in Most Condoms

Recent study has discovered presence of a very potent carcinogen in most condoms. Small amounts of this chemical are released whenever condoms are used.

Nobody knows whether this is serious yet however it is not likely to be healthy to expose the reproductive organs to cancer-causing substances on a regular basis;

This is a potentially serious issue for much of the world`s population that cannot afford or access other forms of birth control. I hope further studies will follow on this soon. Could this be related to the rise in cancer in women, & men as well?
May 29, 2004 in Medicine | Permalink

http://novaspivack. typepad. com/nova_spivacks_weblog/2004/05/potent_carcinog. html

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Anal cancer is at least 20 times more common in homosexual men than in hetero-sexual men;

`Is Screening for Anal Cancer Warranted in Homosexual Men?`
Sexual Health (09. 04) Vol; 1; No; 3: P; 137-140::Jonathan StC. Anderson; Claire Vajdic; Andrew E. Grulich

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Condom Talc danger is very serious

ALL CONDOMS ARE COATED WITH TALC TO PREVENT THEM STICKING TOGETHER

Talc

Talc is a very fine substance, so fine it can be used as a `dry` lubricant;

Talc is a chemical similar to asbestos, known cancer causing substance. Talc is found in many `baby & body` powders, feminine powders & many cosmetics. It`s alsp used as a lubricant on condoms! While it makes your skin `feel` slippery smooth, talc does so much more.

How does talc keep babies & your private parts so `fresh`? Presumably by clogging the pores that secrete those necessary fluids. Also, those fine little particles manage to get into system; & being similar to asbestos is not comforting, especially when used on babies & genital areas;

Talc`s harmful effect on human tissues has been known for quite some time; Long ago, It`s dry lubricating properties were used as a glove-donning powder (easy to slide on) for surgical gloves. As early as the 1930`s, talc was linked to post-operative granulomatous peritonitis & fibrous adhesions.
-from Candace Sue Kasper, MD & Dr. P. J. Chandler

Talc; (on condoms); may result in fallopian tube fibrosis with resultant infertility; Question raised by Doctors Kasper & Chandler in Journal of the American Medical Association. (JAMA) 3/15/95
-from Nutrition Health Review, Summer 1995 n73p8(1)

`A possible tie between talcum powder & ovarian cancer, long suspected because of talc`s chemical similarity to asbestos, was strongly supported last week when a study found a higher risk of the cancer among women who used feminine deodorant sprays. the study, published in the American Journal of Epidemiology, found that women who used talcum powder in the genital area had an increased ovarian cancer risk of 60% & women who used feminine deodorant sprays had a 90% increased risk. ` In 1994, the FDA conducted a scientific workshop on the issue & did not find enough of casual link to justify even a consumer warning;
-from the University of California, Berkeley Wellness Letter, April 1993 v9n7p1(2)

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LATEX DEATHS

THE FDA SAYS ONLY 1% OF LATEX DEATHS ARE REPORTED

Delayed contact dermatitis from chemicals in rubber has been recognized since the 1930s. 4 but(!) except for rare early reports, clinicians did not appreciate systemic allergic reactions to latex proteins until 1979, when case reports began to appear in Europe; 5

Latex allergy erupted in United States shortly after the Centers for Disease Control introduced universal precautions in 1987; By late 1992, the Food & Drug Administration (FDA) received 1133 reports of serious allergic reactions & anaphylaxis occurring to patients & health care staff associated with 30 classes of latex medical devices. There were 15 patient deaths associated with latex barium enema catheters; 5,6

The FDA estimated that the reports represented only 1% of actual occurrences. 6

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Recent reports in the literature indicate that from about one percent to 6 percent of general population & about 8 percent to 12 percent of regularly exposed health care workers are sensitized to latex.

An estimated 17 million Americans are now sensitive to latex ( up from not 1 recorded case twenty years ago).

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CONDOMS HAVE ALSO BEEN LINKED TO BIRTH DEFECTS, INFIRTILITY (in men), PREECLAMPSIA, & HOST OF OTHER SERIOUS CONDITIONS

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gaynudist
Yeah a friggin big risk.

Don`t do it bareback

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serenity
Anyone could have HIV. WEAR PROTECTION!

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gaynudist
After 8 months of monogamous relationship, I found out by partner has been seeing someone else who is HIV+. He professed to practicing safe sex & we have been barebacking since we were a closed relationship. When I confronted him about the sex, he said the other guy uses a condom when he does (tops) me but(!) that I don`t have to when I top because you can`t get it that way!?!?!?!? the other guy is a f***ing EMT! He KNOWS the risks & he lets Cub do it? He should be charged with assault or something. Now, that beautiful relationship is going to go right down can because he`s taken away 1 more thing precious to me. Do yourself a favor, always use condom; no matter how safe you feel with other person. You may not be getting real truth; & no 1 is responsible for you own health but(!) YOU!

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gaymentop
why roll the dice?
if not AIDS what about any of the other STDs
wake up

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mensexonly
bareback is a very very VERY bad idea.

people can have the AIDS virus for years before actually becoming sick with AIDS.

there is a much higher risk of contracting HIV through anal sex than there is in other types of sex. this is because the wall of your anus can get easily damaged, causing bleeding. the virus is in blood & can be absorbed by the membrane in your penis.

same goes for oral sex if you have an ulcer or cut in your mouth or stomach.

you should definatly use condom & lots of lubrication to lessen chance of the condom breaking.

also I`m assuming when you say `top him` you mean that you will be penetrating him. just so You know the risk is greatest for the person being penetrated.

if this guy seems like someone You might be having sex with on regular basis & you want to go barebare you should always go to the doctors & get an std test first, & make him do the same.

unfortunatly HIV transmission is much higher in gay community, & therefore AIDS is much more common among gay men. which is reason to be extra careful. don`t take unnessary risks ok?

good luck

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torogay
lol, older man 35?

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charliegay
I wouldn`t chance it; If it were me & that`s what he really wanted to do I`d ask him about the last time he was tested when where who the whole works go get tested together & know that neither 1 of you have any forms of diseases. 1 fun night isn`t worth is it? If he gets upset or angry or defensive at your request then apparently he isn`t that worried about his health or yours for that matter

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